This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan listen to Rick Steves’s online commencement address and offer their thoughts on his advice to the graduates of 2020. Plus, the Last Stop is back!

Things we talked about in today’s podcast:

David Foster Wallace Commencement Address:

Reichstag reopening:

Franciscan Order:

Jesuit Order:

“The Great” on Hulu:

New Yorker’s “Thirty-Six Thousand Feet Under the Sea” by Ben Taub: