This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan interviews Escape Room expert Tommy Wallach of Hatch Escapes about how video games shaped escape rooms, why Eastern Europe has the world’s best, and why these attractions are really just a blatant Russian conspiracy.

Things we talked about in today’s podcast:

• Thrasher’s Fries
• Pepe’s Pizzeria
• Golden Krust
• Nando’s
• Tommy Wallach
• Hatch Escapes
• Palace Games Escape Rooms in San Francisco
• International Escape Room List
• Bushwick Open Studios
• “Best One-Star Reviews of the Seven Wonders of the World” by Natalie B. Compton