This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan interviews Washington Post journalist Hannah Sampson about overtourism—its causes, potential solutions, and ways that you can be a conscientious traveler. Both Leonardo DiCaprio and komodo dragons are discussed.

Hannah Sampson is a staff writer at The Washington Post for By The Way, where she reports on travel news. Before joining The Post in May 2019, she covered the business of travel in New York City for Skift, a digital news and research site. Before that, she spent 17 years at the Miami Herald, most recently as the newspaper’s tourism reporter.

Things we talked about in today’s podcast: