This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan talks to Elliot Gruber, the director of the Smithsonian National Postal Museum. The boys nerd out about philately (that’s no adverb) and taxidermied mail dogs (okay just the one.) Plus, Peru’s best restaurant.

Elliot Gruber is the director of the National Postal Museum. The museum is dedicated to the preservation, study and presentation of postal history and philately (the collection and study of postage stamps, postmarks and stamped envelopes). The museum hosts exhibitions, educational public programs and research to showcase the largest and most comprehensive collection of stamps and philatelic material in the world. Its William H. Gross Stamp Gallery is the largest stamp gallery in the world. Before joining the Smithsonian in September 2017. Gruber was the chief development and external affairs officer for the Jewish Social Service Agency.

Things we talked about in today’s podcast: