On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan talks to Amy Virshup, the Travel Editor of the New York Times, about the paper’s just released “52 Places to Visit in 2024” list. Plus, the boys launch a new segment called “The Judy Alert” to help Ryan’s mother determine whether her son is in danger.

Things we talk about in this week’s episode:

“52 Places to Go in 2024”


Quito, Ecuador episode


Ecuador Travel Advisory


White House Press Release on Ancestral Footprints of the Grand Canyon National Monument