On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” Kiernan and Ryan celebrate the release of the New York Times’s annual “52 Places to Go” list. Plus, Kiernan ruminates about the importance of family vacations and Ryan triumphantly returns to Brooklyn.

Things we talked about on today’s episode:

NYT’s “52 Places to Go in 2023”


Mark Twain House vandalism


Museum of Modern Renaissance