On this year’s Christmas Spectacular episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan make themselves merry exploring Victorian Christmas traditions, why pet dogs get stockings and pet cats don’t, and whether fireplaces are integral to Christmas celebrations. Plus, Ryan talks about two Hudson River Valley historic home tours and the boys wrap things up with their annual Ugly Christmas Ornament Exchange.

Things we talked about in today’s podcast:

Glenview Historic Home


Armour-Stiner Octagon House


Tomie DePaola’s Christmas Tree Book

Rent’s “Christmas Bells”

Banu Gibson’s “I’d Like to Hitch a Ride with Santa Claus”

Ryan’s ornament


Kiernan’s ornament